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Why we charge for the Internet access for both time and data flow? ...and more Questions and Answers.

Q: Why do you charge for both time and data?
A: We pay Telstra for access to communication links. The charge consists of two components: one constant, and the other one which depends on how much data flows on the link.

Q: Why other ISPs do not charge for data flow?
A: Other ISPs also pay Telstra, Optus, PanAmSat, or another large communication carrier depending on the amount of data transferred. To make their plans look simple, they juggle their statistics and make one group of users subsidize another group.

Q: Why was it necessary for you to introduce billing which includes data?
A: When 56K modems became more and more popular, data flow and, consequently, our costs increased considerably. However, instead of just rising our prices, we have lowered the price for time, and introduced data charges, thus avoiding any dependencies of your internet costs on how fast or slow your equipment is.

Q: How come that other ISPs can offer simple "$1 per hour" (or similar) plans?
A: This requires more detailed explanation. Below is a table analyzing a typical plan. Details are taken from a printed brochure of a large ISP. The first panel of the brochure displays large "only $1 per hour" title.

typical ISP offering
"Internet access at only $1 per hour"

Hermes Internet

$20 registration fee no registration fee
minimum 120 hours has to be purchased minimum standard package $80
(also $20 sampler with higher rates)
hours purchased have to be used within a certain time limits. For example if you buy a "240 hours per year" package, it is assumed that you will be using 20 hours per month. If you use 1 hour in a month, that month the remaining 19 hours are cancelled. there are no restriction, your access block can be used any month for as long as it lasts. If you go on holidays, your funds are waiting for you, nothing is deducted or reset during this inactivity period
if you have 120 hours per year plan, it actually means 10 hours per month. Using more than 10 hours in a month starts penalty billing at much higher rates (typically double or triple the expected rate). This is despite you having plenty of funds left for the remaining part of the year no penalty rates. You can use your account at any time, and the rates are the same at all times
access timed in 15 minutes blocks access timed in 1 sec blocks, at the end of each session rounded to the nearest minute. Data measured in blocks of 1 byte
lower price for more hours? this is one of the oldest marketting tricks. Try to see it the other way around: the lowest price you are quoted is for very high usage, and this is actually the base price, calculated to be profitable. All our access is charged at the same rate, we do not have any "special deals". While we do offer a sampler $20 package with higher rates, this is to cover administrative costs, and this account is not recommended for regular users. All regular users pay identical rates, no matter how often and for how many minutes or hours per week or per month they use our service
if you find that the package you bought does not fit your usage pattern, you can change to another plan, but there is an administration fee you can change from your current plan to any other available plan at any time, there are no administrative fees
if you feel that the packages offered are not suitable, and want to leave, there is an account cancellation fee of $50. This is on the top of what you have paid already. there is no account cancellation fee (access fees are non refundable)
"proxy trap" – compulsory use of proxy, often so called "transparent proxy", without members even knowing about it. This allows ISP to save around 20-30% of data transfers between ISP and the Internet proxies are an involved subject, some people benefit by using proxies, some not. It depends on what you use the Internet for, how you use it, etc. However having proxies is always beneficial to ISP. Our proxies are optional, we do not force anyone to use them. If you wish to experiment with proxy server, see if you like it, you can do it at any time. The decision is yours, we do not force the proxy on you to save us some money
expensive technical support – business hours only, "190" phone number, billed directly by Telstra to your telephone account at a rate of $2 per minute technical support at no additional cost. E-mail questions answered typically within hours. Members only technical-notices list where all members can discuss various technical issues

Q: How come that some ISPs can offer unlimited access for, say $30 per month?
A: Firstly, communication charges paid by ISPs in large cities (Sydney, Melbourne, etc) are much lower than in remote areas. At this stage Telstra considers "47" phone area to be a remote region. Secondly, our aim is to provide the highest possible quality of Internet access. It is our choice not to compete in a segment of the market which offers budget, lower quality access, slow connections, congested lines, and busy signals. Finally, check carefully what if really offered. It is not unusual to see many conditions associated with an "unlimited" offers, for example when you can access the Internet, what is maximum allowed length of a session, how many sessions per day you can have, etc.

Q: How do I know that you provide high quality access to the Internet?
A: Every ISP claims that their service is excellent. To help you compare we created a sample $20 account. This account has higher access rates, but for only $20 (no account setup fee!) you can try our service yourself. We trust that you find overall quality of the Internet access we provide to be second to none. One difference which you notice immediately is that busy lines are extremely rare due to very low modem per user ratio.

Q: Do you offer free trail account?
A: No. We feel that existing members of Hermes Internet should not have to fund trials of "potential" new customers. For this purpose we offer $20 sample account (see above).

Q: Do you see your rates becoming in future simple "$ whatever per hour" or a "flat, unlimited rate"?
A: It all depends on Telstra, Optus, and other large communication carriers. As long as the communication giants base charges on data, do not intend to provide cheaper communication access, and consider our region to be "remote", we can not offer any other charging schemes. The only way for us to do this would be to (a) raise our prices drastically, or (b) compromise on access speed and overall quality.

Q: Do I need to have a credit card to join?
A: No, you do not. We require a credit card details only if you wish to use our "monthly credit card account". For the most popular "$80" package you can also pay by a cheque, cash, or a Postal Money Order.

Q: How soon my new Internet account will be activated?
A: Typically, within 1 hour from receiving your details (a phone call is sufficient, you can also mail a copy of Registration Form, or simply write the details on a piece of paper). You can also join our service on line, from another Internet account, using our secure form. All setup instructions are available on our Web site, we also mail to you a set of printed instructions.

Q: I have heard that satellite connection is cheaper?
A: Not much cheaper, but at this stage it is less reliable, and introduces an additional link delay (so called "latency"). The main disadvantage is that the quality of satellite connections depends on weather conditions, and during heavy fog and rain periods may cut off completely. However this technology is

Q: I can measure time, but how do I know how much data I use?
A: Full information may be obtained from our server by email, from specially set automated responder, or from our Web site. It shows the length of your session, and the total amount of data flowing between your computer and the Internet. Please see "Member Services" area for full details.

 

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